Ken Wilber - Integral Politics

At the recent 5-day Integral Institute seminar on Integral Business Leadership,
Ken Wilber was asked, by a senior Zen teacher, "What do you think of the Republican convention?"
Ken responded by giving an overview of what a truly integral politics might look like, and used that to compare and contrast with the Democratic and Republican conventions, both of which are less-than-integral. We think that this twenty-minute summary is brilliant, insightful, deadly serious, and wickedly funny, all at once. But by all accounts it is an extraordinary account of why all politics today are considerably less-than-integral, along with certain features that almost certainly would have to be included in the future in any truly integral politics.
In this synopsis, Ken focuses on three items that all political theories have attempted to address but none have managed to fully integrate. These are the tension between (1) the individual and the collective; (2) the source of the cause of human suffering: is the individual primarily to blame or is the society primarily to blame?; and (3) the different levels of development that the different political parties tend to represent: any truly integral politics would include and represent all of them, and yet how on earth do you do that?
Due to time considerations, Ken did not discuss two other equally important ingredients in any integral politics. One. In representational democracies, people have a right to be at whatever stage of development they are at, and generally speaking, within free speech, a right to express the values of whatever stage they are at. Traditional-fundamentalist (blue) has a right to be traditional, modernist (orange) has a right to be modernist, postmodernist (green) has a right to be postmodernist, and so on. This is generally modified in practice, to the extent that the center of gravity of a culture will tend to impose its values on others, especially if they are first-tier (or less-than-integral) values. Nonetheless, in democratic societies, there's a general background understanding that people have a right to be, and a right to express, whatever stage they are or whatever belief system they possess.
Two. They do not, however, have a right to act on those beliefs. This is generally handled in representative democracies by a separation of public and private, and by a similar if more specific principle of the separation of church and state. This means that, for example, in the privacy of my blue-meme mind, I am free to believe that Jesus Christ is my personal savior and that nobody achieves salvation without a belief in Jesus. In public behavior, however, I am not allowed to burn at the stake somebody who disagrees with me. In terms of integral psychology, this means in the interior of an individual (i.e., the upper left), the person can believe whatever they like; but in their public behavior (i.e., the upper right), they must behave according to laws drawn from a worldcentric or higher level of development (lower left), or else they are charged with civil or criminal behavior and removed from society if necessary (lower right).
This separation of church and state, or more generally what Max Weber called the differentiation of the values spheres, is one of the great and enduring contributions of the Western enlightenment, a contribution almost entirely misunderstood by extreme postmodernists, who in fact are operating under its protection while bitterly condemning it.
(The most common version of this is the aggressive attempt to reduce "I" and "It" to "We,' or the attempt to reduce art and science to a social construction, which can therefore be deconstructed. As it turns out, this reductionism presumes precisely what it denies, but then, deconstructive postmodernism has been little without its performative contradictions.)
A truly integral politics exists nowhere on the planet at this time, principally because not enough individuals have emerged at the integral levels of consciousness, and hence no governments anywhere have integral representatives as members (except rarely and by accident). Its principal challenge is to create some form of governance that allows each stage to be itself within the constraints of not harming others (i.e., to let red be red, and blue be blue, and orange be orange, and green be green, etc—precisely because, as we saw, this is a right in virtually all free societies), and yet to govern from the highest, widest, deepest, and most encompassing levels of development emerged to date (starting at yellow). Most representative democracies do this anyway, except their center of gravity is not yet fully integral, and they do it implicitly, not explicitly.


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lord jesus come and ... ( 1 year ago by bass109)
lord jesus come and take the people to new heavens!
@LooksAeterna ... ( 1 year ago by jhgosnell)
@LooksAeterna interesting take. to me, it is not likely that terrorists are at 2nd tier. they may speak that way, but it's red i think. i don't see how one can be at 2nd tier and look down on people...by definition, 2nd tier includes the lower levels within it and respects where they are at.
@jhgosnell The reds ... ( 1 year ago by LooksAeterna)
@jhgosnell The reds are certainly involved - at a lower level of power: the Clintons and the Summers and the like.
But I mean some of those you'll never see on TV. From what I am getting to understand about their philosophy is that those whom they consider mere cattle self-select themselves by being easily manipulated. The Eye sees the cusp of human history coming, and the understanding is that not many are going to make it. Stupidity and not seeing the signs marks the cattle as death-bound.
@jhgosnell Speaking ... ( 1 year ago by LooksAeterna)
@jhgosnell Speaking of Clinton, BTW, case in point: he is positively aware of the 911 scam, massively participates in promoting and profiting from the official disinfo, and having read Wilber well understands 2nd tier.
Understanding the structure and the necessity of lower rungs on the ladder for you own rung does NOT imply respecting the individuals on the lower rungs. There's few points to be made here even regarding Wilber's own behavior.
2nd tier by no means means "unpathological".
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Integral politics ... ( 1 year ago by parannoyance)
Integral politics equals a whole load of marketed garbage you can buy with
special offers etc; same old shit - empereor = no clothes.
Wilber 'I'm not bragging but....' Wake up kids.
@LooksAeterna from ... ( 1 year ago by jhgosnell)
@LooksAeterna from integral you respect WHERE people are at in their growth. It doesn't mean that you can't address them though...something they are doing may be causing misery. You get where they are at and it makes sense to you HOW they can see it that way. Still, even at integral, it seems to me that military force and other things may be called into to play...for example, to address red egotism (terrorism perhaps). Healthy 2nd tier should not be pathological...unhealhty versions maybe occur.
@jhgosnell "from ... ( 1 year ago by LooksAeterna)
@jhgosnell "from integral you respect WHERE people are at in their growth"
I can't remember whether "respect" was part of the definition of 2nd tier, "understand" would probably be sufficient since you can't even do that below 2nd.
Even if "respect" is in it, this would be the case only if the moral line would be on integral. You can be integral cognitively and morally in the stone age. Hence I spoke of pathological 2nd tier.
Array ( 1 year ago by LooksAeterna)
(contd.)
It troubles me that Ken Wilber actually seems to buy into the idea that 911 was enacted by pockets of reds "out there". Not doubt we have them out there, but I would assume that the real terrorism is enacted by people on very pathological branches of second tier who seem to think of themselves as beyond the concerns of those on 1st whom they consider like animals and try to consciously keep on 1st tier.
It is no accident that the US regressed 1-2 notches, rather that was the point !
@LooksAeterna then, ... ( 1 year ago by jhgosnell)
@LooksAeterna then, on the moral line you are not at integral. so, it's not integral that is necessarily path., but rather the person's development is lopsided. as an extreme example, Adi Da was mostly at unitive it seems to me, but his moral-sexual line was maybe red-assed as one can get. it's not a problem of unitive as a level of consciousness, but of a lopsided development...it seems to me. that's my take anyway.
@jhgosnell I wasn't ... ( 1 year ago by LooksAeterna)
@jhgosnell I wasn't arguing that integral is pathological. I said:
"It troubles me that Ken Wilber actually seems to buy into the idea that 911 was enacted by pockets of reds "out there". "
It was certainly cognitively integral people. If it is their lopsidedness that's the problem, then still it isn't simply "reds".
What troubles me is that Wilber actually buys into the idea that 911 was done by those backward people and not by his very own customers, such as Bill Clinton and his likes.
@jhgosnell I ... ( 1 year ago by LooksAeterna)
@jhgosnell I wasn't arguing that integral is pathological. I said:
"It troubles me that Ken Wilber actually seems to buy into the idea that 911 was enacted by pockets of reds "out there". "
It was certainly cognitively integral people. If it is their lopsidedness that's the problem, then still it isn't simply "reds".
What troubles me is that Wilber actually buys into the idea that 911 was done by those backward people and not by his very own customers, such as Bill Clinton and his likes.
the first truly ... ( 11 months ago by richspur2004)
the first truly third way political party was the Labor party in Australia. When it got into government in the early 1980's it did the market liberalisation that happened under both Reagan and Thatcher in the USA and UK, except because they were interested in both right and left solutions, they were able to maintain the economic safety net while the rapid expansion occurred. Australia now is one of the most prosperous countries in the world and it's due to this type of thinking.
I like him...no one ... ( 9 months ago by jhgosnell)
I like him...no one seems to understand the importance of all of the various perspectives...conservative and liberal perspectives both have merits. To avoid being wishy washy, we can find a way that the integral perspective actually applies.
I somewhat agree... ... ( 7 months ago by jhgosnell)
I somewhat agree...and add: Traditional values and morals matter as much as more liberal values such as mental flexibility, acceptance, creativity, etc.
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@ ... ( 6 months ago by DemonHermit)
@presentlightoftruth Why is every philosopher, scientist and spiritual teacher a false prophet to you christians? Nobody is trying to "prophecize" and nobody is propping themselves up as a savior like you guys are always claiming. Now go listen to Kent Hovind and suck up some more creationist bullshit.
The Postmodernism ... ( 5 months ago by verwoestijning)
The Postmodernism Generator is a computer program that automatically generates postmodern essays. Gramatically correct but meaningless.
Now watch a college language student reviewing a computer generated essay. He has no clue of its true origin.
/watch?v=jxQ7rONF5iE
This paradaigm is ... ( 5 months ago by SuperVinceism)
This paradaigm is only limited only to the extent that it is "possibly" simplistic. Besides that issue, i think this is a brilliant pilitical paradigm. It's Ken, what do you expect.
@LooksAeterna I ... ( 5 months ago by jhgosnell)
@LooksAeterna I agree here...the lines. We can be very evolved in one line and an idiot in another. That would be path. 2nd tier I think. What a mess!
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